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    Devereaux
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    922r Compliance

    Post by Devereaux on Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:43 pm

    So we talked some about SKS and mention was made of AK's somewhere. I have voiced my overall rejection of commie guns, but others find them "useful". There were even rational reasons. I remain unmoved - I will NOT buy a commie gun, doesn't matter how good it is.

    BUT I thought somewhere I heard a comment about AK's and putting a foldin stock on them. Also stocking up on magazines.

    I was recently researching 922r compliance vis a vis Benelli M4. Interesting results. BUT it got me thinking about other stuff here. So I am posting this in order for you guys to either look this up for yourselves, OR modify what all you have.

    As best I can tell, 922r compliance is one of those "gotchs" laws that is bizzare in its interpertation and execution. Trouble is, it is a FELONY, and the BATF WILL put you in jail if you aren't in compliance. It seems that, as I understand it, you can buy an imported semiautomatic rifle or shotgun as is, BUT if you change ANYTHING, then you have to fit the 922r listing. Which says that the MOST "foreign parts" you can have is 10. And they give the list of what parts count. The total list is 20.

    SO by way of example, on the Benelli if you add a magazine extension on the stock tube, you have to remove FOUR items from the listed ones and replace them with American made stuff. If, OTOH, you replace the stock (foreign) tube with a longer American made tube, you are good.

    This gets crazier for guns like the AK or Saiga. There one of the standard items is a magazine, BUT it counts as THREE parts, as they look at the follower, spring, and box as each one point. So if you substitute the stock that came with it with a folding one - of American manufacture - I am presuming that you are OK. But you can be OK with some other substitution and then get some foreign mags and BOOM - you are now not in compliance. And liable to arrest and imprisonment.

    Anyone have an alternate view of things, let me know.

    Such a nice government we have.
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    Re: 922r Compliance

    Post by Devereaux on Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:59 pm

    Here's a site that may be helpful.

    http://freedomfightertactical.com/922r-faq/
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    Re: 922r Compliance

    Post by Charlie Foxtrot on Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:52 pm

    Niiiiiice. The Constitution isn't a bump in the road anymore, but this Rubic's Cube of a law could put you in jail.

    Any idea when it became law? I'm pretty sure i bought my Benelli skeet gun during Ronnie or Bush the Elder's terms

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    Re: 922r Compliance

    Post by Devereaux on Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:30 am

    I am not a lawyer (thank the Lord!) but I understand it that this is part of the old Gun Control Act of 1968 that Lyndon Johnson put up. It has never been repealed.

    I cannot give you better information, but here are a couple links that might (maybe - this IS, after all, a federal law so it can't be all that understandable - in any form.

    http://www.tapco.com/section922r/

    http://thegunwiki.com/Gunwiki/LegalFederal922rParts

    Don't know if this helps any. My overall sense is that this is a BIG gotchs type law. Rational people doing reasonable things can easily be breaking the law here. Thank you, big government.
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    Re: 922r Compliance

    Post by Cornmastah on Thu Dec 18, 2014 10:40 am

    Yeah, I am very aware of 922r compliance laws. I first discovered them when I wanted to add a magazine to an SKS. I did lots of reading back then. I have done several Saiga conversions which requires a decent number of compliance parts. When modifying Saiga's or Vepr's, I play on the safe side (which is a wise idea if you decide to keep in possession the factory magazine) and swap out enough parts so that the factory magazine (foreign parts), when inserted into your gun, does not make it 922r "un-compliant." There are several websites that have 922r compliance part calculators which are helpful.

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